Despite being found guilty of forging bank documents, theft, and swindling hundreds of thousands of dollars, Anna Sorokin doesn't consider herself a con artist.

Also known as Anna Delvey, the fake German heiress that swindled New York's elite, Sorokin recently appeared on Alex Cooper's "Call Her Daddy" podcast, where she denied ever lying. She claimed,

“I never told any senseless lies. Unless they were, like, a bank. Nobody asked who are your parents, what do they do, how much money do they make.”

When asked directly if she introduced herself as a German heiress, she answered,

“No one introduces oneself like that. What kind of sentence is that? Don’t be ridiculous.”

Sorokin asserted that she didn't pretend to have that much money, and that people simply assumed she was wealthy. She maintained,

“I never was doing anything so super-crazy. There’s people spending way more money than I did. People assumed I was trying to impress anybody, but forty, fifty, sixty million--that’s borderline poor in New York. There’s so many rich people there, you can’t even impress anybody.”

At the end of the episode, she did admit that what she did was unethical. She followed that up by admitting she has her fellow inmates at Rikers do chores for her by pretending to be rich. She stated,

“I do see what I did wrong. But so many people are doing worse things. If you have money, you don’t have to do anything."

Sorokin is currently in ICE custody awaiting deportation. Ironically enough, her ejection from the country has nothing to do with her crimes, but is instead due to an overstayed visa she possessed as a German citizen.